Re: Long term strategy
17 years 6 months ago - 17 years 6 months ago #12958
by Emmeti
Replied by Emmeti on topic Re: Long term strategy
Do we have any idea if people are interested?
I was really interested but unfortunately some last minute problems ruined all my plans, i hope to be there next year.
Did anyone ask to other members?
Too far from home? Too expensive? August not the best date?
Or are they just not interested?
I know according from what you say Playa, those are irrelevant details because Redhair is the organizer, he decides dates and places, so if you want to play sensidays pirmasens is the place august is the date. That s ok.1 - 2 - 3 or 13 or 1000, doesn t matter and i must say looking at pics , reading reports ... Redhair did a great job! Â
  thumbs up!
Once again if your goal is to have as many players as you can, i think the best way is to ask 1 by 1 to ss.de members :
Are you interested in joining offline tournaments?
When are you going to have a couple (2 and a half, maybe 3) days off work, study, whatever, to go to sensidays?
What s your budget?
How far would you travel?
after receiving all answers you could have an idea of where and when is better to organize an offline tournament.
Otherwise keep going this way, i think it s awesome anyway!!!
There s no the perfect place , you cannot make everyone happy.
Someone has to drive and/or fly more , someone has to spend more time to go to Pirma than others, like for every other place in europe.
I think is about to decide just if it s better (in order to have biggest sensidays possible)Â to the ss.de community to decide places and organizers or let redhair organize the whole thing.Â
Once you ve decided, complaining is useless because what you get is the best thing you can have.
Once you know WHEN and WHERE and how MUCH, then it s UP TO YOU.
I was really interested but unfortunately some last minute problems ruined all my plans, i hope to be there next year.
Did anyone ask to other members?
Too far from home? Too expensive? August not the best date?
Or are they just not interested?
I know according from what you say Playa, those are irrelevant details because Redhair is the organizer, he decides dates and places, so if you want to play sensidays pirmasens is the place august is the date. That s ok.1 - 2 - 3 or 13 or 1000, doesn t matter and i must say looking at pics , reading reports ... Redhair did a great job! Â
  thumbs up!Once again if your goal is to have as many players as you can, i think the best way is to ask 1 by 1 to ss.de members :
Are you interested in joining offline tournaments?
When are you going to have a couple (2 and a half, maybe 3) days off work, study, whatever, to go to sensidays?
What s your budget?
How far would you travel?
after receiving all answers you could have an idea of where and when is better to organize an offline tournament.
Otherwise keep going this way, i think it s awesome anyway!!!
There s no the perfect place , you cannot make everyone happy.
Someone has to drive and/or fly more , someone has to spend more time to go to Pirma than others, like for every other place in europe.
I think is about to decide just if it s better (in order to have biggest sensidays possible)Â to the ss.de community to decide places and organizers or let redhair organize the whole thing.Â
Once you ve decided, complaining is useless because what you get is the best thing you can have.
Once you know WHEN and WHERE and how MUCH, then it s UP TO YOU.
17 years 5 months ago - 17 years 5 months ago #13994
by GFC
I m Serbian too
I think that the main problem lies in offline vs online playing.
When there was no possibility to play SWOS online, tournaments in Serbia gathered 40-50 participants from Serbia, Czech Rep, Poland, Austria, even Lebanon. And those tournaments were organized in a small city in Serbia, with poor traffic connections, poor accomodation, but there was a lot of fun. People HAD to gather on some place these days if they want to play together. We even had a woman player
Now, it is the most likely that whoever register on ss.de have a possibility (broadband internet connection) to play online, from his/her own room, without need to travel 100, 500, 1000, 2000 km to get to Germany. And that kills offline tournaments. People got lazy, everyone would like to get there in the first place, but later some unavoidable duties or problems prevent them to actually buy a ticket and really come to Germany. I think theis year was not an exception, you should count on repeating this situation in following years.
Belgrade offline tournament held this year is not quite for comparison. We had around 20 contestants, but 16-17 of them are from Belgrade. It is not hard to gather 20 people in a city of 1,5 million.
I wish you Germans to make tournaments where thousands of people will gather, with lot of fun, etc, etc.
Cheers, GFC`98
P.S. For instance: if I had wanted to come to Pirmasens last summer, there was NO CHANCE I could get a visa without one-two-three months torturing in German Embassy (or any EU-member s embassy). People from many countries have big problems to travel to EU, but, since most of the members on ss.de are from EU-countries, this is not the reason for small number of participants on tournaments.
Replied by GFC on topic Re: Long term strategy
Where are the Serbians to play online (except Yossarian)?
I m Serbian too
I think that the main problem lies in offline vs online playing.
When there was no possibility to play SWOS online, tournaments in Serbia gathered 40-50 participants from Serbia, Czech Rep, Poland, Austria, even Lebanon. And those tournaments were organized in a small city in Serbia, with poor traffic connections, poor accomodation, but there was a lot of fun. People HAD to gather on some place these days if they want to play together. We even had a woman player
Now, it is the most likely that whoever register on ss.de have a possibility (broadband internet connection) to play online, from his/her own room, without need to travel 100, 500, 1000, 2000 km to get to Germany. And that kills offline tournaments. People got lazy, everyone would like to get there in the first place, but later some unavoidable duties or problems prevent them to actually buy a ticket and really come to Germany. I think theis year was not an exception, you should count on repeating this situation in following years.
Belgrade offline tournament held this year is not quite for comparison. We had around 20 contestants, but 16-17 of them are from Belgrade. It is not hard to gather 20 people in a city of 1,5 million.
I wish you Germans to make tournaments where thousands of people will gather, with lot of fun, etc, etc.
Cheers, GFC`98
P.S. For instance: if I had wanted to come to Pirmasens last summer, there was NO CHANCE I could get a visa without one-two-three months torturing in German Embassy (or any EU-member s embassy). People from many countries have big problems to travel to EU, but, since most of the members on ss.de are from EU-countries, this is not the reason for small number of participants on tournaments.
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